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Tomocast 34: Dragon Ball Z records tonight
2:00 PM on 04.03.2009
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sometimes people want the cheaper alternative, the dealer's that usually carry this stuff is to make money. I have worked with dealer's at the table at cons and sometimes the people who buy these things really don't know better. They buy it because they like it, sometimes the bootlegs look like the real thing to people.
I've bought a figure for full price on Ebay once, and it was a bootleg. :( I never buy my figures there ever. Then again it was my fault for not being cautious. There's always someone out there to make money.
I've bought a figure for full price on Ebay once, and it was a bootleg. :( I never buy my figures there ever. Then again it was my fault for not being cautious. There's always someone out there to make money.
@ Aiya
I don't buy figs from Ebay any more for the same reason. The thing is I don't like the practice of it, even if the customer doesn't know the difference. I think it insults the customer and makes a con look bad. That's just my opinion though, I tend to get easily annoyed.
I don't buy figs from Ebay any more for the same reason. The thing is I don't like the practice of it, even if the customer doesn't know the difference. I think it insults the customer and makes a con look bad. That's just my opinion though, I tend to get easily annoyed.
Here is a question. When does something go from being bootleg to being a custom? By definition a bootleg is a non licenced piece and no money goes to the owner of the IP. Can't this also be said of the stuff sold at e2046? The stuff there are just painted recasts of things sold at Japanese hobby conventions. So not only does the IP owner not get money neither does the fan that sculpted the origonal piece.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Well,I never buy from e2046, because of that very reason. I'm not interested in the ugly fakes, and even if a recast is more or less exactly the same in looks I'd prefer the artists that created it to get my money.
@Hitogoroshi
The difference is that a custom is advertised as a custom. The customizer bought the original. What they sell is the work they did to it to make it a different figure. A bootleg tries to convince you that you are buying the official figure. No where on that Luffy box does it explicitly state that it's fake and it says P.O.P., linking it to the actual figure line. At that point, the company that produced it is tricking the buyer, and stealing the original company's intellectual property.
The difference is that a custom is advertised as a custom. The customizer bought the original. What they sell is the work they did to it to make it a different figure. A bootleg tries to convince you that you are buying the official figure. No where on that Luffy box does it explicitly state that it's fake and it says P.O.P., linking it to the actual figure line. At that point, the company that produced it is tricking the buyer, and stealing the original company's intellectual property.
@ Hito
A custom requires work in reimagining the original piece in a creative way that differs from the original enough where you don't get the two confused.
A bootleg mimics the original for the sake of profit, not giving a damn about screwing over your customer. Generally, a bootlet is not labeled as such while a custom is.
Much like obscenity, it's hard to describe, but I can sure as hell tell you when I see one.
A custom requires work in reimagining the original piece in a creative way that differs from the original enough where you don't get the two confused.
A bootleg mimics the original for the sake of profit, not giving a damn about screwing over your customer. Generally, a bootlet is not labeled as such while a custom is.
Much like obscenity, it's hard to describe, but I can sure as hell tell you when I see one.
That Catbus and Totoro are disgusting!!!
I don't think I have ever bought a fake toy, but my collection is very small, and I have never been to a con before. I usually do my shopping at places like Kid Nemo or Hobby Search.
Ya, I can tell that L is a fake just from the picture. The eye painting looks a little wonky :/
I don't think I have ever bought a fake toy, but my collection is very small, and I have never been to a con before. I usually do my shopping at places like Kid Nemo or Hobby Search.
Ya, I can tell that L is a fake just from the picture. The eye painting looks a little wonky :/
@Colette
Well, since we are on this topic... Is there any other place to buy kits? I've searched a lot but e2046 seems to be the only place to buy them.
I think recasts are ok when it's an oooold kit, but from what I've read there are some people that pre-order recasts even before the original kit has launched =/ So sad...
Well, since we are on this topic... Is there any other place to buy kits? I've searched a lot but e2046 seems to be the only place to buy them.
I think recasts are ok when it's an oooold kit, but from what I've read there are some people that pre-order recasts even before the original kit has launched =/ So sad...
I'm just gonna put it out there...I can't tell whats legit and what's fake. I just started getting into figures last year. I usually just buy things that I think look nice
@Fychan -- I feel sure there must be, but I'll be honest, I don't know the best resources to find them. :(
It boggles my mind when I see distorted looking larger versions of UFOs I have at home going for half or a third the price. If you view them up close you can tell by the workmanship. Not so if buying on line.
Nowadays the Japanese cos. are making very few anime plushes - maybe for this very reason.
The more legit cons, like Anime Expo, bust all dealers of unlicensed items.
Nowadays the Japanese cos. are making very few anime plushes - maybe for this very reason.
The more legit cons, like Anime Expo, bust all dealers of unlicensed items.
Hey, I was there! I did skim through those dealers and yea, alot of that stuff from that dealer seemed shady. Not to say, they may not have known. Other than that, let it be noted not ALL the dealers there were selling bootlegs, just that one, maybe two.
The Festival was great and the gardens there are fantastic. I hope to attend the festival as well next year, and hope they get more dealers to set up shop!
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The Festival was great and the gardens there are fantastic. I hope to attend the festival as well next year, and hope they get more dealers to set up shop!
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@GenshikenServo
If you looked at the dealers there that were selling plushies and figures, there were about 4-5 dealers. Of those 4-5, I spotted bootleg stuff at 3 of them, and I suspected a couple of things at one of the other dealers. There was only one table (the one with all the trading figures and gashopons) that was completely legit, and that guy's prices were a little expensive (probably b/c he knew he had some of the only legit stuff there.)
The festival was OK. It could have been better if it didn't rain the entire time we were there. The place looked beautiful, and I imagine that it would've looked better in the sunshine. I will be going back to those gardens again!
If you looked at the dealers there that were selling plushies and figures, there were about 4-5 dealers. Of those 4-5, I spotted bootleg stuff at 3 of them, and I suspected a couple of things at one of the other dealers. There was only one table (the one with all the trading figures and gashopons) that was completely legit, and that guy's prices were a little expensive (probably b/c he knew he had some of the only legit stuff there.)
The festival was OK. It could have been better if it didn't rain the entire time we were there. The place looked beautiful, and I imagine that it would've looked better in the sunshine. I will be going back to those gardens again!
True, true. Aside from them, all those dealers were mostly Naruto stuff so again, I can't say I was looking too closely.
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It is a shame though. It's such a tough climate to get this stuff even without the bootlegs. Someone should start a Better Otaku Business Bureau.
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It is a shame though. It's such a tough climate to get this stuff even without the bootlegs. Someone should start a Better Otaku Business Bureau.
I see this kinda thing at the London Expo too.... crappy knock off stuff that deserves nothing more than to be thrown to the firey pitts of hell and buuuuurn for all eternity.
I *think* its vetted pretty carefully for alot of fake goods though.... some things get through though....grrrr
I *think* its vetted pretty carefully for alot of fake goods though.... some things get through though....grrrr
Did you guys call the dealer(s) on it?? I used to do Star Trek cons (Slanted Fedora), selling autographs -which I or one of my worker bees personally collected at each con-, as well as t-shirts, videos, and assorted crap (stupid money?? you betcha!!). Only once do I recall anyone selling a fakey-fake, and we quickly and noisily (no way that dude was ever going to show his face there again) threw him out.
Knowing that vendors are selling fakes but letting it slide is bad form. I'm not saying you should get in a fight over the issue, but certainly bring it to the dealer's/con staff's attention. Dude may honestly not have known. Or dude may be vigorously and knowingly scamming people. Being a vendor at cons can be very lucrative (we netted $17k at SDCC one year), but it can also leave you hungry. If we can keep out the trash and deal only with "reputable" vendors, it benefits us and the hobby in general.
Sorry. I didn't mean to rant :/
Knowing that vendors are selling fakes but letting it slide is bad form. I'm not saying you should get in a fight over the issue, but certainly bring it to the dealer's/con staff's attention. Dude may honestly not have known. Or dude may be vigorously and knowingly scamming people. Being a vendor at cons can be very lucrative (we netted $17k at SDCC one year), but it can also leave you hungry. If we can keep out the trash and deal only with "reputable" vendors, it benefits us and the hobby in general.
Sorry. I didn't mean to rant :/
