...I'm kinda confused *why* they're doing it though. Is it that they're trying to push people to buy their stuff from US stores? Are they worried about foreigners taking pre-order slots? I mean, the best case would be them opening their own online store for foreign orders, but... I dunno. This whole thing seems strange, especially with Mikatan's blog now being in English and how that makes it seem like they're trying to appeal to foreigners, so...
I don't understand how they think this is a good idea. Brick-and-mortar stores in America are rare, not particularly profitable, and often involve high markups or bootleg goods. And it's not like Americans are all going to suddenly shlep over to Akihabara to buy things. Blocking sales from online stories is just losing sales.
If GSC does this, then people will start using proxy services instead of online stores and probably, the bootleg versions will start selling more because some people will just settle for that if they can't get the original, no matter what, it's a stupid move.
You know, that was one of my first guesses too, but that's only IF the reason they're discontinuing international sale through Japanese sites in order to "avoid bootlegging." Note that the comment from CDJapan states that this regards international sales on Japanese sites - there's no mention of stores based in other parts of the world that import their product.
The more I think about it, the more I think it wouldn't make sense for GSC to completely close off foreigners from their product - I mean, some of their Figmas and Nendos have been distributed by Diamond before, and then there's that English version of Mikatan's blog which is rather recent, which would imply that they're trying to reach out to the international market instead. I guess... maybe it's a way of levelling the playing field? I mean, since several of the Japan-based sites (such as AmiAmi) sold their products for so much less than the US-based ones, the US stores wouldn't be able to compete at the rate things were going... :\ (And let's not go into other countries such as those in Europe, which I hear pay out the nose for their toys.)
Anyway, I hope you guys get that response from GSC soon! I'd like to know what's going on too. :(
Knowing how these things go, if they are looking into the US market (too bad about the rest of the world right?) half the products will be offered at a much larger price.
Not to mention toy fans and anime fans can be VERY fickle and something like this could have a very negative backlash.
Though as you said, it could just be their new 'policy' (which exists solely on paper) and companies like Amiami and HLJ will simply ignore it. I guess GSC could stop supplying them, but that would be pretty bad for them as well.
If I buy from a Japanese retailer I get 100% authentic GSC goods and the money goes to them makes sense to me to keep the process as is. Maybe GSC could even run their own web store and ship globally that would be nice.
If it's just a silly case of non-Japanese taking up too many pre-order slots (someone I think mentioned it here), then the solution is simple; they can limit the amount that foreigners can pre-order until a certain time passes for the locals to get their chance. It would just require a little more effort on the part of our friends the retailers. In any case, I'm looking forward to the new information and an official statement.
I pre-ordered HMO Miku, and she's out in a few days... not to mention I had a pre-order of the Mashiro nendo. Uggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh.
Why would they even do this?
I've gotten the message on some items but none have really been GS stuff. I don't even want to think about it. **positive thoughts**
I guess I probably won't be getting my Kuroneko Nendoroid if this news is true.
And although it'd be great if they were US, but there's no way GSC can possibly have a real presence in the US. At any rate, I think the only GSC products I (think) have on order atm is the Kirino figma and Ui nendo. The Ui nendo I don't really care about but the Kirino could be potentially upsetting.
At any rate, the policy would be batshit insane because it's impossible to effectively enforce and would only attract the ire of online retailers.
I've checked my other stores and haven't gotten any e-mails on cancellations or suspensions of figmas. All we can do is wait and see.
But if this is true, GSC is really only shooting themselves in the foot here. Bootleg and secondhand purchases will increase (think the Misaka leak on steroids), and people won't want to bother with using proxies for GSC products, instead buying products from other companies. I for one know that if this does turn out to be serious, I'll be buying a LOT more Revoltechs and Figmas.
I guess playing it safe ALMOST makes sense if you consider GSC is a small company working in a very niche industry, but it still seems like they'd be throwing away money by doing this. I would find it hard to believe they would (or can) completely stop all foreign sales but it does not look like that's much of a priority for them.
>Small company
Oh u.
Honestly, I don't have much in the way of GSC merch. I think I have a drossel figma and VN02 Miku, and that's it. Let's be honest, the majority of GSC's products are moeblobs. While I WILL be irritated since it'll mean I'll have to get the eventual Append Miku somewhere else, I feel this is pretty much just GSC waving their giant e-penis just because they can, and to overcompensate for their tiny carbon-based penises. Will doing this hurt them? Yes. Enough to be damagingly significant? No. Will they change their mind after? No, because that would mean admitting they were wrong. If this goes through, expect to be paying through the ass for your moeblobs.
>Small company
Oh u.
Honestly, I don't have much in the way of GSC merch. I think I have a drossel figma and VN02 Miku, and that's it. Let's be honest, the majority of GSC's products are moeblobs. While I WILL be irritated since it'll mean I'll have to get the eventual Append Miku somewhere else, I feel this is pretty much just GSC waving their giant e-penis just because they can, and to overcompensate for their tiny carbon-based penises. Will doing this hurt them? Yes. Enough to be damagingly significant? No. Will they change their mind after? No, because that would mean admitting they were wrong. If this goes through, expect to be paying through the ass for your moeblobs.[/quote]
Umm... No.
Figmas have a nice line of characters that arn't moe blob.
I just don't know what to think, I'm a Nendoroid collector primarily so this news is completely heartbreaking. I mean, what the hell? But unfortunately, Orannis is right, GSC has a bad habit of never admitting they're wrong, and while this would damage them: we need to remember we are a small minority of the people who buy this stuff.
Figmas have a nice line of characters that arn't moe blob.[/quote]
Hence why I said the majority, not all of them. Every nendoroid is a moeblob whether the original character was or not, and most of their statues are either of moeblobs, or alternate versions of characters who originally were moeblobs. Let's face it, three of their biggest licenses are K-On, Nanoha, and Vocaloid.
I hate to think that I will have to rely on Yahoo Auction Japan or Ebay for GSC figures. Some places ask an arm and a leg for them.
>Small company
Oh u.
[/quote]
According to their website they've got 38 employees and are worth about $3.6 million US, that might be big for a figure company but it's not that big in general. Either way I don't agree with what they're doing, I was just trying to think of some reason why they're doing it. I agree they are probably just trying to send a message and at worst we're going to be paying more for our figmas and nendos.
I have a feeling it ties back into GSC being unhappy with the big discounts being offered online undercutting their prices domestically. In Japan they can charge super-high prices just like the anime companies ($90 a bluray anyone?) but when shops are selling their stuff at significant discounts to international markets it makes it harder for them to get away with it.
All of what you've just said has nothing to do with anything here >_>
First off, the discounts were just being taken away from FOREIGN customers. People in Japan could still get the stuff at the cheaper prices. You know, because GSC hates us white devils. The change now isn't against the online retailers but against the sale to FOREIGN customers. And foreign sales really wasn't affecting their domestic, since it's not like they lowered their price for foreign customers anyway; instead they were just doing it to move product.
==="($90 a bluray anyone?)"
That's fairly atypical and usually represents some collector's set, which is a practice they do in the US as well. Half of the Shonen anime figure/DVD packs start retailing at around $50 before they hit clearance buckets in the US.
==="I guess playing it safe ALMOST makes sense if you consider GSC is a small company working in a very niche industry, but it still seems like they'd be throwing away money by doing this."
Small certainly isn't a word I'd use to describe GSC. Plus their end of the industry seems a bit more mainstream than other collectible markets =x
According to their website they've got 38 employees and are worth about $3.6 million US, that might be big for a figure company but it's not that big in general. Either way I don't agree with what they're doing, I was just trying to think of some reason why they're doing it. I agree they are probably just trying to send a message and at worst we're going to be paying more for our figmas and nendos.[/quote]
You can't judge a company by the number of its employees, unless we're talking retail. Also, I'm not sure where you got those numbers from since I don't see them on their "About us" page.
At any rate, GSC represents a very large segment of the collectibles market and it's not fair to compare them to mainstream toy companies like Bandai and Mattel who have massive operations.
I hate to think that I will have to rely on Yahoo Auction Japan or Ebay for GSC figures. Some places ask an arm and a leg for them.[/quote]
Oh HELL NO they better not be thinking of cutting me off from my Masamune Nendo! So cute... ;_;
Er, ahem... I mean, I sincerely hope they don't plan on not honoring preorders that have already been made before this. That would really not look good.
A world without figmas
I don't want to live in such a place.
this feels worse than when my girlfriend cheated on me
My heart just sank so deep right now
if my only option is to pay mark up in the US or go through a proxy I won't be able to keep this hobby up for much longer, at-least for GSC products anyways
Okay this is horrible, I only buy GSC figures from places like AmiAmi, Otacute, etc etc because I don't know of any North American onlines stores that sell them plus I know if I order from the Japanese sites I will get a geniune GSC figure.
Ditto, come to think of it. Prior to using AmiAmi I was just buying mostly from Japanese-based sellers. Was a bit more expensive in most cases =x
You can't judge a company by the number of its employees, unless we're talking retail. Also, I'm not sure where you got those numbers from since I don't see them on their "About us" page.
At any rate, GSC represents a very large segment of the collectibles market and it's not fair to compare them to mainstream toy companies like Bandai and Mattel who have massive operations.[/quote]
The info is on the GSC japanese page (thanks google translate). My point was they might not have the resources of a larger company like Bandai or Mattel, and maybe that's why they would be more inclined to play it safe and focus on the domestic market. Again, I don't think that's a good idea, I'm just tossing out theories as to what in the world they are thinking with this.
I want to prepare for pre-ordering somewhere else through a proxy system. It will be more expensive but it guarantees I get them.
Anyway, I hope you guys get that response from GSC soon! I'd like to know what's going on too. :([/quote]
I think you have it here. If GSC is going to be distributing through Diamond overseas, not just the US because here in Australia on certain items like the Shining Wind series i am getting now the Japan Only from AmiAmi, that with Diamond you cant be selling elsewhere they will undercut or mainly allow other stores to release items before they get a chance to solicited them in there magazine.
So if GSC will sell through Diamond not only will be they be much more expensive because of the cut they take you will probably only see items in stores that are popular because they require minimum sales of a item before they are distributed. So for the sake of using Figmas, your OreImo series will be popular but your Sore de mo Machi wa Mawatteiru may struggle to make it into your stores. Actually you will probably not see the more obscure items from GSC in stores since Diamond is a non-return distributer and stores dont want to be stuck with inventory they might struggle to sell.
Sure hope not though, since I have some GSG figures on pre-order, which I still really want to have (Don't you dare take away my Saber Alter version, not before we complete the set) :|
But like people have stated in earlier comments, this will just give proxy services more power and like stated by glockenpop, they have the English Mikatan blog. There is no news on there regarding this piece of news and I would of thought they'd post about something this -big-.
Figma are made by Max Factory, so I feel like MF may continue to do its own thing...
I really hope this is just some mis-interpretation... As long as none of my current preorders are cancelled I will be okay. Thank god I caved and added Dead Master Animated version to my orders the other day before this whole mess came about.
My heart aches for those that mainly collect nendoroids. (I myself collect a healthy amount, so I would be heartbroken to not be able to add to them, especially since I am hoping for some eva nendos!)
OMG YOU GUYS: GENDO NENDO XD
Granted nothing is going to beat seeing a BRS Original or Saber Lily at Anime Expo last year for $250 each.
My point was they might not have the resources of a larger company like Bandai or Mattel, and maybe that's why they would be more inclined to play it safe and focus on the domestic market.
They aren't personally focusing on any market; rather they're selling to companies who sell their product >_> There's really no logic to preventing other companies from selling their product abroad, other than the theory that they're going to create an agreement with specific companies to handle overseas sales.
jel x / Scarecroodle: Those aren't discounts. Either way we pay more than suggested retail due to shipping...bah.
Their clearances aren't considered discounts? >_> I can understand possibly not counting the amount they sell under the MRSP as not being a discount but...
And yeah, we get totally fucked on shipping no matter what.
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