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[Update 2] Tomopop Business Report: Good Smile stopping US exports photo

[Update 2] HLJ has made a comment regarding the situation, stating that the policy "does not affect HLJ's ability to sell GSC products overseas."

[Update] As pointed out in the comments, some retailers have responded. AmiAmi will honor all orders already confirmed, but no word on future GSC products. Toys Logic originally responded that the issue would not affect their orders, however they have since canceled an order due to "distributor issues." It's up to speculation as to whether this is indeed a result of the rumored GSC policy.

I'm really hoping that this news doesn't turn out to be true. We received a tip today alerting us to a new policy coming down from Good Smile Company.  CD Japan, in a newsletter today, stated the following, "IMPORTANT: Unfortunately, products manufactured by Goodsmile Company, including Nendoroid and figma, are no longer available at CDJapan as they decided to discontinue exporting their products through online shops located in Japan. We apologize for any inconvenience caused, and appreciate you for understanding."

A check of the major retailers does not show any immediate implementation of the policy outside of AmiAmi. On all Good Smile products at AmiAmi have the note of "For Sale in Japan Only." This notice has appeared on items before, but orders are still able to be placed for those items. Hobby Link Japan and Hobby Search have not shown any indication of any changes regarding Good Smile Company products.

I'm inclined to believe that this is the official policy of GSC, especially considering the past actions concerning heavily discounted merchandise. As to reasons why this is being done, I believe that the company is seeing its popularity and trying to expand into the American market. However, I believe that these Japanese retailers will force GSC's hand and allow them to sell the goods or just flat-out ignore the order.

We have contacted Good Smile Company and are awaiting a response. When official news concerning the policy is released, we will be sure to update. Let us know what you think of this news in the comments below.


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If GSC does this, then people will start using proxy services instead of online stores and probably, the bootleg versions will start selling more because some people will just settle for that if they can't get the original, no matter what, it's a stupid move.
I *really* hope this isn't true. Especially with Ui and HMO Miku out in a few days... and beyond that, all my pre-orders... mean, I heard about this earlier today, but I thought it was only a rumor and that AmiAmi wasn't going to be affected.

...I'm kinda confused *why* they're doing it though. Is it that they're trying to push people to buy their stuff from US stores? Are they worried about foreigners taking pre-order slots? I mean, the best case would be them opening their own online store for foreign orders, but... I dunno. This whole thing seems strange, especially with Mikatan's blog now being in English and how that makes it seem like they're trying to appeal to foreigners, so...
If this is true that's quite bad. I don't see why they would do this as it would only hurt their image and hence their popularity. I mean as long as they profit from selling to people from the US via exporting I don't see why they should even consider something like this. It just makes no sense. I hope it's not true I have a few upcoming pre orders for GSC figures and I don't want to see them affected.

GSC expanding into more US markets isn't going to make anyplace within hours of me start selling Nendoroids. The end result of this policy, if it means my preorders at Amiami get cancelled, will probably be buying things through reselling on eBay. Most of whom are in Hong Kong, and almost none of whom are in America.

I don't understand how they think this is a good idea. Brick-and-mortar stores in America are rare, not particularly profitable, and often involve high markups or bootleg goods. And it's not like Americans are all going to suddenly shlep over to Akihabara to buy things. Blocking sales from online stories is just losing sales.
If GSC does this, then people will start using proxy services instead of online stores and probably, the bootleg versions will start selling more because some people will just settle for that if they can't get the original, no matter what, it's a stupid move.


You know, that was one of my first guesses too, but that's only IF the reason they're discontinuing international sale through Japanese sites in order to "avoid bootlegging." Note that the comment from CDJapan states that this regards international sales on Japanese sites - there's no mention of stores based in other parts of the world that import their product.

The more I think about it, the more I think it wouldn't make sense for GSC to completely close off foreigners from their product - I mean, some of their Figmas and Nendos have been distributed by Diamond before, and then there's that English version of Mikatan's blog which is rather recent, which would imply that they're trying to reach out to the international market instead. I guess... maybe it's a way of levelling the playing field? I mean, since several of the Japan-based sites (such as AmiAmi) sold their products for so much less than the US-based ones, the US stores wouldn't be able to compete at the rate things were going... :\ (And let's not go into other countries such as those in Europe, which I hear pay out the nose for their toys.)

Anyway, I hope you guys get that response from GSC soon! I'd like to know what's going on too. :(
If this is true, it shows GSC are getting quite arrogant. Sure they might be popular outside of Japan, but that is only because of the ability to import their products.

Knowing how these things go, if they are looking into the US market (too bad about the rest of the world right?) half the products will be offered at a much larger price.

Not to mention toy fans and anime fans can be VERY fickle and something like this could have a very negative backlash.

Though as you said, it could just be their new 'policy' (which exists solely on paper) and companies like Amiami and HLJ will simply ignore it. I guess GSC could stop supplying them, but that would be pretty bad for them as well.
Dissapointing, espeacially so since there ia hardly any stores in the entire country where I live who will stock things like this - and those who do mark everything up to rediculous amounts (in the realm of 200-500%) and sometimes they aren't even legit goods.

If I buy from a Japanese retailer I get 100% authentic GSC goods and the money goes to them makes sense to me to keep the process as is. Maybe GSC could even run their own web store and ship globally that would be nice.
I really hope this isn't true. There are a few comic shops near me, and I am good friends with the owners. As much as I would love to see them expand their buisness and get a wider range of customers, I still know that they are all having a hard enough time with staying green as it is. Online shopping is where most things are going anyway now. I don't really have alot of pre-orders I'm concerned about, but I do love the nendoroid line and want to stay with collecting it
At least it's still just a rumor for now, but it's a very disheartening one. There's a shop in New York where I saw a few Nendoroids and figmas for sale, and they were all marked up beyond what any normal person should pay - and my assumption is that either that would happen with the expansion into US stores or...well maybe it won't be. I mean, what kind of incentive would anyone have to buy these toys State-side if they mark it up so much? The same way that the online resellers/retailers get rebates and bulk deals, so should international shops if they were to carry these. It would be very unwise of -any- manufacturer to make a move that would deter buyers in any way. An international buyer shouldn't have to pay any more than they already did by purchasing from a Japanese site, in other words.

If it's just a silly case of non-Japanese taking up too many pre-order slots (someone I think mentioned it here), then the solution is simple; they can limit the amount that foreigners can pre-order until a certain time passes for the locals to get their chance. It would just require a little more effort on the part of our friends the retailers. In any case, I'm looking forward to the new information and an official statement.
The whole idea is laughable.
Dear GOD I hope this isn't true. D:
I pre-ordered HMO Miku, and she's out in a few days... not to mention I had a pre-order of the Mashiro nendo. Uggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh.
Why would they even do this?
You know if this was so I think AmiAmi would have sent an e-mail already informing us about it. Since I klnow a lot of people have pre-orders with some GSC goodies that are already coming out this month.

I've gotten the message on some items but none have really been GS stuff. I don't even want to think about it. **positive thoughts**
Well, its pretty simple: wait and see.
If they're doing this because they're setting up their own overseas distribution, it makes sense. Otherwise, I can't see why you'd cut off potential customers - I don't think any businesses are doing that well.

I guess I probably won't be getting my Kuroneko Nendoroid if this news is true.
Insane policy is insane.

And although it'd be great if they were US, but there's no way GSC can possibly have a real presence in the US. At any rate, I think the only GSC products I (think) have on order atm is the Kirino figma and Ui nendo. The Ui nendo I don't really care about but the Kirino could be potentially upsetting.

At any rate, the policy would be batshit insane because it's impossible to effectively enforce and would only attract the ire of online retailers.
Well, this is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it sucks if I won't be able to get any more Figmas (Kos-Mos, Nooooooo!), but I guess I'll be saving a lotta money...
As far as I can tell it's only Amiami...
I've checked my other stores and haven't gotten any e-mails on cancellations or suspensions of figmas. All we can do is wait and see.
My guess is that any existing orders/preorders won't be affected, and that it'll just prevent international customers from putting GSC products in new orders.

But if this is true, GSC is really only shooting themselves in the foot here. Bootleg and secondhand purchases will increase (think the Misaka leak on steroids), and people won't want to bother with using proxies for GSC products, instead buying products from other companies. I for one know that if this does turn out to be serious, I'll be buying a LOT more Revoltechs and Figmas.
I have a feeling it ties back into GSC being unhappy with the big discounts being offered online undercutting their prices domestically. In Japan they can charge super-high prices just like the anime companies ($90 a bluray anyone?) but when shops are selling their stuff at significant discounts to international markets it makes it harder for them to get away with it. If that's true, that is VERY short sighted of them but not really surprising.

I guess playing it safe ALMOST makes sense if you consider GSC is a small company working in a very niche industry, but it still seems like they'd be throwing away money by doing this. I would find it hard to believe they would (or can) completely stop all foreign sales but it does not look like that's much of a priority for them.
Oh hell no, not before I can preorder Stocking.
>GSC
>Small company

Oh u.

Honestly, I don't have much in the way of GSC merch. I think I have a drossel figma and VN02 Miku, and that's it. Let's be honest, the majority of GSC's products are moeblobs. While I WILL be irritated since it'll mean I'll have to get the eventual Append Miku somewhere else, I feel this is pretty much just GSC waving their giant e-penis just because they can, and to overcompensate for their tiny carbon-based penises. Will doing this hurt them? Yes. Enough to be damagingly significant? No. Will they change their mind after? No, because that would mean admitting they were wrong. If this goes through, expect to be paying through the ass for your moeblobs.
[quote]>GSC
>Small company

Oh u.

Honestly, I don't have much in the way of GSC merch. I think I have a drossel figma and VN02 Miku, and that's it. Let's be honest, the majority of GSC's products are moeblobs. While I WILL be irritated since it'll mean I'll have to get the eventual Append Miku somewhere else, I feel this is pretty much just GSC waving their giant e-penis just because they can, and to overcompensate for their tiny carbon-based penises. Will doing this hurt them? Yes. Enough to be damagingly significant? No. Will they change their mind after? No, because that would mean admitting they were wrong. If this goes through, expect to be paying through the ass for your moeblobs.[/quote]

Umm... No.
Figmas have a nice line of characters that arn't moe blob.
My god, if anything this further confirms many horror stories I've heard about Americans (and other foreigners) in Japan facing extreme racism for buying mass quantities of stuff for proxing services.

I just don't know what to think, I'm a Nendoroid collector primarily so this news is completely heartbreaking. I mean, what the hell? But unfortunately, Orannis is right, GSC has a bad habit of never admitting they're wrong, and while this would damage them: we need to remember we are a small minority of the people who buy this stuff.
[quote]
Figmas have a nice line of characters that arn't moe blob.[/quote]

Hence why I said the majority, not all of them. Every nendoroid is a moeblob whether the original character was or not, and most of their statues are either of moeblobs, or alternate versions of characters who originally were moeblobs. Let's face it, three of their biggest licenses are K-On, Nanoha, and Vocaloid.
I am hoping that if this is indeed a new policy by GSC, Ami Ami and other sites don't cancel pre-orders for things that will be releasing soon like the Date Masamune nendoroid. That nendo was supposed to come out at the end of January but was pushed back to February. Grrrr.

I hate to think that I will have to rely on Yahoo Auction Japan or Ebay for GSC figures. Some places ask an arm and a leg for them.
[quote]>GSC
>Small company

Oh u.

[/quote]

According to their website they've got 38 employees and are worth about $3.6 million US, that might be big for a figure company but it's not that big in general. Either way I don't agree with what they're doing, I was just trying to think of some reason why they're doing it. I agree they are probably just trying to send a message and at worst we're going to be paying more for our figmas and nendos.
I have a feeling it ties back into GSC being unhappy with the big discounts being offered online undercutting their prices domestically. In Japan they can charge super-high prices just like the anime companies ($90 a bluray anyone?) but when shops are selling their stuff at significant discounts to international markets it makes it harder for them to get away with it.


All of what you've just said has nothing to do with anything here >_>

First off, the discounts were just being taken away from FOREIGN customers. People in Japan could still get the stuff at the cheaper prices. You know, because GSC hates us white devils. The change now isn't against the online retailers but against the sale to FOREIGN customers. And foreign sales really wasn't affecting their domestic, since it's not like they lowered their price for foreign customers anyway; instead they were just doing it to move product.

==="($90 a bluray anyone?)"

That's fairly atypical and usually represents some collector's set, which is a practice they do in the US as well. Half of the Shonen anime figure/DVD packs start retailing at around $50 before they hit clearance buckets in the US.

==="I guess playing it safe ALMOST makes sense if you consider GSC is a small company working in a very niche industry, but it still seems like they'd be throwing away money by doing this."

Small certainly isn't a word I'd use to describe GSC. Plus their end of the industry seems a bit more mainstream than other collectible markets =x
[quote]>GSC
According to their website they've got 38 employees and are worth about $3.6 million US, that might be big for a figure company but it's not that big in general. Either way I don't agree with what they're doing, I was just trying to think of some reason why they're doing it. I agree they are probably just trying to send a message and at worst we're going to be paying more for our figmas and nendos.[/quote]

You can't judge a company by the number of its employees, unless we're talking retail. Also, I'm not sure where you got those numbers from since I don't see them on their "About us" page.

At any rate, GSC represents a very large segment of the collectibles market and it's not fair to compare them to mainstream toy companies like Bandai and Mattel who have massive operations.
[quote]I am hoping that if this is indeed a new policy by GSC, Ami Ami and other sites don't cancel pre-orders for things that will be releasing soon like the Date Masamune nendoroid. That nendo was supposed to come out at the end of January but was pushed back to February. Grrrr.

I hate to think that I will have to rely on Yahoo Auction Japan or Ebay for GSC figures. Some places ask an arm and a leg for them.[/quote]


Oh HELL NO they better not be thinking of cutting me off from my Masamune Nendo! So cute... ;_;

Er, ahem... I mean, I sincerely hope they don't plan on not honoring preorders that have already been made before this. That would really not look good.
Okay this is horrible, I only buy GSC figures from places like AmiAmi, Otacute, etc etc because I don't know of any North American onlines stores that sell them plus I know if I order from the Japanese sites I will get a geniune GSC figure.
no more nendos
A world without figmas

I don't want to live in such a place.


this feels worse than when my girlfriend cheated on me

My heart just sank so deep right now

if my only option is to pay mark up in the US or go through a proxy I won't be able to keep this hobby up for much longer, at-least for GSC products anyways
jel x / Scarecroodle: Those aren't discounts. Either way we pay more than suggested retail due to shipping...bah.
Okay this is horrible, I only buy GSC figures from places like AmiAmi, Otacute, etc etc because I don't know of any North American onlines stores that sell them plus I know if I order from the Japanese sites I will get a geniune GSC figure.


Ditto, come to think of it. Prior to using AmiAmi I was just buying mostly from Japanese-based sellers. Was a bit more expensive in most cases =x
[quote]
You can't judge a company by the number of its employees, unless we're talking retail. Also, I'm not sure where you got those numbers from since I don't see them on their "About us" page.

At any rate, GSC represents a very large segment of the collectibles market and it's not fair to compare them to mainstream toy companies like Bandai and Mattel who have massive operations.[/quote]

The info is on the GSC japanese page (thanks google translate). My point was they might not have the resources of a larger company like Bandai or Mattel, and maybe that's why they would be more inclined to play it safe and focus on the domestic market. Again, I don't think that's a good idea, I'm just tossing out theories as to what in the world they are thinking with this.
I have decided to grab the bull by the horns and sent an email to Ami Ami regarding my pre-order of the Gift Nendoroid Sebastian and Ciel plushes that are to be released in April. I just asked them if the items now saying "For sale only in Japan" means that my pre-order will be cancelled.

I want to prepare for pre-ordering somewhere else through a proxy system. It will be more expensive but it guarantees I get them.
[quote]The more I think about it, the more I think it wouldn't make sense for GSC to completely close off foreigners from their product - I mean, some of their Figmas and Nendos have been distributed by Diamond before, and then there's that English version of Mikatan's blog which is rather recent, which would imply that they're trying to reach out to the international market instead. I guess... maybe it's a way of levelling the playing field? I mean, since several of the Japan-based sites (such as AmiAmi) sold their products for so much less than the US-based ones, the US stores wouldn't be able to compete at the rate things were going... : (And let's not go into other countries such as those in Europe, which I hear pay out the nose for their toys.)

Anyway, I hope you guys get that response from GSC soon! I'd like to know what's going on too. :([/quote]

I think you have it here. If GSC is going to be distributing through Diamond overseas, not just the US because here in Australia on certain items like the Shining Wind series i am getting now the Japan Only from AmiAmi, that with Diamond you cant be selling elsewhere they will undercut or mainly allow other stores to release items before they get a chance to solicited them in there magazine.

So if GSC will sell through Diamond not only will be they be much more expensive because of the cut they take you will probably only see items in stores that are popular because they require minimum sales of a item before they are distributed. So for the sake of using Figmas, your OreImo series will be popular but your Sore de mo Machi wa Mawatteiru may struggle to make it into your stores. Actually you will probably not see the more obscure items from GSC in stores since Diamond is a non-return distributer and stores dont want to be stuck with inventory they might struggle to sell.
COMPLETELY stupid idea. I don't understand the logic behind it. It just gives power to proxy sites and in the end WE lose out. I hope this isn't true, it's strange since they are open to international interests with there english mikatan blog and international photo contests. It really doesn't make sense if people can't get the stuff they're showing us. :/
Just wondering, would this affect US imports only or ALL international customers? Since the topic says US export, and the rest of the text gives me a strong feeling that they want to stop all export :/

Sure hope not though, since I have some GSG figures on pre-order, which I still really want to have (Don't you dare take away my Saber Alter version, not before we complete the set) :|
This doesn't sound too great at all, I just hope it isn't regarding peoples current preorders with the various companies which distribute GSC goods. Not great news for people looking to get into collecting GSC goods. We were looking at getting BGS figma next month but this news kinda puts our ideas in jeopardy. I would have thought that in these times that any customers, from where-ever in the world, are welcome. I can understand if companies are getting annoyed regarding preorders being filled with foreign purchasers, but surely they could find another way to do things then cut out a proportion of their customers. I just hope that this could possibly be a misunderstanding of some sort. The site where we were looking at buying BGS figma from doesn't have any information regarding this news and I feel that Play-Asia is a pretty decent site so I really do not know what to think or do regarding our possible pre-order! I might contact Play-Asia and ask them and quote the news in the post to find out if they know anything about this.
But like people have stated in earlier comments, this will just give proxy services more power and like stated by glockenpop, they have the English Mikatan blog. There is no news on there regarding this piece of news and I would of thought they'd post about something this -big-.
Well, if that is indeed true, it might be time to make use of that tenso.com account...
I expect bootlegs will be even more of a problem than it was before. GSC needs to make a proper policy announcement and not half-ass it like they are doing right now.
This is a scary thought. HOW WILL I ADD STRENGTH TO MY COLLECTION OF BRS GOODIES?!


Figma are made by Max Factory, so I feel like MF may continue to do its own thing...

I really hope this is just some mis-interpretation... As long as none of my current preorders are cancelled I will be okay. Thank god I caved and added Dead Master Animated version to my orders the other day before this whole mess came about.

My heart aches for those that mainly collect nendoroids. (I myself collect a healthy amount, so I would be heartbroken to not be able to add to them, especially since I am hoping for some eva nendos!)

OMG YOU GUYS: GENDO NENDO XD
I've noticed that even with MF and FREEing and whatnot being the manufacturers, GSC does a lot of the distribution for those other companies; so I wonder if that would be affected if this becomes more than a rumor.
Yeah let's piss off your international costumers, as if getting stuff from Japan wasn't hard enough for them already.
To those who have visited stores where the figures seem marked up, has it been taken in to account that the store probably got the figure at the same price as say Amiami, plus paid for shipping, and had to recoup these costs? I mean, I'd like to know what some of these prices are to see if they are actually gouging, or if they are just trying to make there money back plus a little for their trouble.

Granted nothing is going to beat seeing a BRS Original or Saber Lily at Anime Expo last year for $250 each.
Dude did GSC realize that their customers are NOT only in Japan?! I hope they get the stick out of their ass and not do this, it will definitely hurt them more than it hurts us. I have at least 10+ figma and nendo's for pre-order, to see it canceled would be really dumb. Nice going GSC.
My point was they might not have the resources of a larger company like Bandai or Mattel, and maybe that's why they would be more inclined to play it safe and focus on the domestic market.


They aren't personally focusing on any market; rather they're selling to companies who sell their product >_> There's really no logic to preventing other companies from selling their product abroad, other than the theory that they're going to create an agreement with specific companies to handle overseas sales.
jel x / Scarecroodle: Those aren't discounts. Either way we pay more than suggested retail due to shipping...bah.


Their clearances aren't considered discounts? >_> I can understand possibly not counting the amount they sell under the MRSP as not being a discount but...

And yeah, we get totally fucked on shipping no matter what.
This is the response I got from Ami Ami re: my preorder of the Nendoroid Plush Sebastian and Ciel, they will honor my order:

Hello,

Thanks for your inquiry. Some products at our store are designed and produced specifically for sale inside Japan. We ask you to please keep this in mind when placing your order for items from our shop. If you are concerned about orders that you have already placed and feel that they may fall within this category please simply check your inbox for a confirmation of your orders. Any orders for which you have received a confirmation from our store are considered to be valid, while any changes or updates that may be required will be sent to you as soon as possible via e-mail.

We apologize for the confusion caused by this and thank you for your kind understanding.

Best regards,

AmiAmi
Well I just payed for and got a payment conformation for Ui Hirasawa nendo from Amiami.


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